David Leggat - giving it to you straight

Wednesday, 10 November 2010

ENGLAND BAFFLED BY CELTIC POPPY ROW

THE REFEREE debate which is a blight on Scottish football, will no doubt outlast the Celtic supporters' Bloodstained Poppy banner row.

Though I know which is the more important topic. And it is most certainly not the one which centres on a purely football matter.

However, both subjects were in evidence during Sky Sports excellent live coverage of the English Premier League game between Stoke City and Birmingham City.

The build up to the action featured a number of clips showing Stoke as the victims of a succession of absurd refereeing decisions, plus the reaction after those incidents of Stoke manager, Tony Pullis.

Pullis was rightly furious and reckoned that so far this season bad refereeing decisions have cost Stoke seven points.

It was a view Sky's outstanding Andy Gray agreed with.

However - and this is just one way things are different in England - nobody from Stoke was ranting and raving about any anti-Stoke conspiracy. Nobody claimed that refs who don't come from the Potteries hate the club.

Nobody even hinted that the Football Association and the EPL's refereeing hierarchy are institutionally biased against Stoke City.

Pullis, for all his rage in the immediate aftermath of such wrong decisions, clearly knows that to talk of conspiracy would not only be as wrong as the decisions which have cost his club, but also make him and Stoke look foolish.

It is doubtful if the good men who are the directors of  the club of Sir Stanley Matthews would tolerate such nonsense, far less join in.

There was also the sight of both teams wearing a Poppy on their shirts, without any row breaking out about it being bloodstained.

Now, I lived and worked in Birmingham for a decade from the mid 1970s and know there are more people living there of Irish descent than there are in the whole of Scotland.  None of them seem to have any problem with the Blues wearing a poppy on the strip.

Likewise, through the length and breadth of England this weekend supporters in their hundreds of thousands will stand in solemn and respectful silence to honour the fallen in an Act of Remembrance.

And at the matches covered by Sky in England there will be no need for them to commit journalistic suicide by muting the sound of the silence being broken by booing and singing. For, unless some Celtic zealots infiltrate, there will be none.

There will be no debate in newspapers, on websites or radio phone ins. In fact, many of the English pals I have spoken to cannot quite understand what is going on up here over Celtic fans and their Poppy protest.

But I am indebted to one Celtic supporter who has penned a well written and thoughtful piece on the Celtic Underground site, under the name of Bhoy Ali.

He reveals himself to be a Muslim, and makes the comparison between the terrorist zealots who have highjacked that religion, and the extremists among  Celtic supporters who seek to highjack not just the club's fanbase, but the very club itself.

Bhoy Ali goes on to say that he knows and mixes with many Celtic supporters but cannot think of one who agrees with the Bloodstained Poppy banner, or with the minority of morons who have flooded the many Celtic sites with their bile.

As I said, it is a thoughtful and well written piece, and I commend it to everyone of every hue. Protestant, Roman Catholic, Muslim and non believers alike.

Not to mention the many English men and woman who find the actions of those who raised aloft that Bloodstained Poppy banner, so distasteful and bewildering.

Rationale does not always come from the most obvious place. But it is out there just the same. You've just got to look and listen. And stop and think.

47 Comments:

At 10 November 2010 10:16 , Anonymous Daytripping said...

The point scoring over this by der hun is laughable, of course it was disgraceful but so are the Rangers fans who belt out no pope of rome every other week, as a Aberdeen fan I find both sets as bad as each other, they really are Scotlands shame.

btw Those good English folk condemning Celtic fans won't have forgotten the lone policemen almost being kicked to death, the chances of the vile firm getting into England is zero, mores the pity!

 
At 10 November 2010 10:26 , Blogger Thetruth said...

DT

And we find you, at best, insignificant.

Long may your team fall - relegation beckons. Best look out the Betamax - watch your shit teams best moments.

 
At 10 November 2010 11:30 , Anonymous Barloch76 said...

Daytripper you are laughable, you speak of point scoring, then point score, ironic or moronic, you can choose!

 
At 10 November 2010 11:38 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daytripper, look up irony. Using the offensive and sectarian H-word whilst berating Rangers fans for NPoR.

 
At 10 November 2010 11:49 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

great article, celtic fans are the lowest of low from an arsenal fan

 
At 10 November 2010 11:52 , Anonymous James Blythe said...

thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'm a Man u fan and never thought this is what celtic fans believe, there was me thinking city fans were bad, what an absolute shower of sh*** celtic are

 
At 10 November 2010 12:26 , Anonymous Azurething said...

Keep up the good work Leggo. While your ex-colleagues in the Scottish media tried to sweep this one under the carpet over the weekend, you helped to raise it in the national spotlight. Football fans the length of the country and beyond are appalled.

 
At 10 November 2010 12:29 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daytripper, what is it you are tripping on?
You support a Team that regales in the career ending injury of one of Scotlands finest ever talents, Ian Durrant.
You refer to Rangers fans as Huns, whilst condemning the singing of no Pope of Rome.
Would you condemn anyone sing No Shah of Iran, or No Vladimir Putin?
Surely as Benedict xvi is the head of a Religion which has systematically raped young children all over the World with almost total impunity, it is not a prerequisite that Non RC's should sing his praises?

Almo

 
At 10 November 2010 12:41 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daytripping.
Appears you were "aff" from Primary a few Days.

You are ( if you are ) aN Aberdeen fan, not a Aberdeen fan.

Jimbo.b

 
At 10 November 2010 12:50 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice to see the Sheep trying to be significant,If I was uncouth enough to be one of them I'd be more concerned with my team gifting the filth 5 goals, and then my Manager going out of his way to talk the vermin up yet again!

Keep up the good work David, at last the world is seeing beyond the parody which the Scottish mhedia helped preserve at the San Giro.

 
At 10 November 2010 12:50 , Anonymous rossawe said...

An Aberdeen fan trying to educate us on the concept of morals, the very same fans who glory in the Ibrox disaster and celebrate the base thuggery of Neil Simpson which robbed Scottish football of a young player wwho would have surely become world class.

Your constant use of the 'H' word only goes to illustrate what an ill educated bumpkin you are, you would think that givem the fact that your poisonus little club is being run into the ground by Miller and McGhee that you would be more gainfully employed venting your spleen in that direction.

Well written david, though I am not thouroughly convinced that there are as many right minded Celtic fans as is claimed by Bhoy Ali, I fear he has exercised the same licence for exaggeration previously peddled by the fabulous fabricating, revisionist Kohli brothers, not to mention the fantasist Asma Meer.

How anyone of a black or Asian background could support a club whose fans were the perpetrators of the worst racist episode witnessed in any UK sports ground is beyond me..That clubs prejudices seem boundless!

 
At 10 November 2010 12:52 , Anonymous James Molloy, Lincoln said...

The Bheast is despised all over England. Their vile support of the IRA and Poppy shame has further cemented this.

Battered at Chelsea, battered at Lincoln, they will be battered every time they cross the border now. England despises Bheasts.

 
At 10 November 2010 13:03 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The headline in my paper (the i) said "Cameron Steps Into Poppy Row". I immediately thought that David Cameron had stepped in to sort out the Taigs. Imagine my surprise when it turns out that it's the Chinese who were offended by DC wearing a poppy ! They really are slanty-eyed bigotted vermin. The whole world is shocked by the shameful behaviour of the Chinese. How dare they not wear their poppies with pride. How dare they have a different opinion from us huns. Dirty little yellow people who have no shame. Get them added to the banned list. I've already emailed the President of China. I'm a pure raging hun so I am.

 
At 10 November 2010 13:17 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just a thought, but as so many Celtc fans groups are coming out to defend the Greane Brigdae in their Anti British stance and to agree that " Britishness" is offensive to their Irsih Heritage, surely they cannot now countenance having that most British of Events, THE COMMONWEALTH GAMES, opening and closing ceremonies at their stadium?
To have the Union flag fly over Celtc park and members of the Royal family in attendance would surely be offensive to their Irish Heritage.

Jimbo.b

 
At 10 November 2010 13:18 , Anonymous Daytripping said...

Hun is a Rangers fan, Tim is a Celtic fan, only in the deluded paranoid World of the gloryhunter are either of those terms sectarian, you both need to grow up and drag yourselves out of the gutter.

The durrant songs are called football banter, don't tell me you lot get upset by it! It's called winding up the opposition, just as we don't shag sheep etc....

The Ibrox disaster songs have not been sung since the 80's when everything was fair game for all sides, nowadays that type of sick song and all religious songs are outlawed, we've moved on! ffs even Ireland has moved on yet you two stay like two bairns fighting over a lolly.

Start supporting your local teams if you're from outwith Glasgow and try to remember; it is only a game, granted a pish game due to an unequal spread of the wealth but still a game.

Apologies for any grammatical or spelling errors, I'd have stuck in at school if I knew a hun would pull me up on it in later life on a blog.

 
At 10 November 2010 13:25 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a Rangers fan i feel we have to get our own house in order before we can point any fingers.Let's leave the rest of the country to say what they think about that lot.Until we ourselves can concentrate of solely football matters and football songs we can hardly take the moral high ground.

 
At 10 November 2010 13:27 , Anonymous rossawe said...

Anon 13:03

There you go again making vile racial and religious slurs, as I said ealier the Celtic minded have boundless prejudices, not happy with using the 'H' word your description of Chinese people as 'slanty eyed bigoted vermin' coupled with your attitudes to those Affro Carribean decsent (Monkey suits, Bananas etc)and the Nazi salutes aimed at Israel fans, not to mention the anti American sentiment (Mimmicking planes crashing into the twin towers) to Claudia Reyna.

What a vile narrow minded scumbag you are!!

 
At 10 November 2010 13:31 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daytipping,
As one who attend Ibrox Primary and who was born in the Shadow of Ibrox Park I do support my local team. I also support my Homeland of Scotland and her sons who are sent into danger on the elected government's command ~ John Reid should know a bit about this.

Unless you have selective hearing, like Mr Spiers, you will concede that the Ibrox disaster song is still on the menu, it was sung last time you visited Ibrox.
To suggest celebrating the maiming of one of the best, if not the best, prospective talents Scotland has produced in a decade, denying our National team of a rare talent is " Banter"
is, to nearly as strange as the fact the person who inflicted the injury, after the ball had gone, was only booked.

Finally, if you care to check the records of your own Fan site you will find a post relating to the Royal Marines and Navy lads taken prisoner a couple of years back.Your fellow Aberdeen supporter was demanding these lads be executed by their captors.

 
At 10 November 2010 13:33 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think you'll find hun is a sectarian term, though obviously again your lack of schooling shows through.
Last season at Ibrox your wee band of followers were heard singing the Ibrox 71 song. Didn't Hugh Keevins have a go at Aberdeen fans after a recent game about it?
It's one thing being stupid but mix that with ignorance and you've got one total idiot.

 
At 10 November 2010 13:44 , Anonymous rossawe said...

Daytripping

I was going to admonish you but I have been saved the trouble on your pathetic justifications. As one who was born in the Ibrox area and supported my club for 45 years I will not be told who to support by someone with the severe lack of moral compass which your disgraceful comments most clearly highlight!

 
At 10 November 2010 13:55 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daytripper,

Unequal spread of the wealth? Remind us all of your crowd last night against ICT? Compare that to the crowd between Rangers & Hibs tonight. Then you will see why we are wealthier.

Mr Leggat - spot on as always.

 
At 10 November 2010 14:07 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im a Bradford fan and I can remember the wreckage rangers fans left in my city so lets not forget that both halves of Scotlands socalled oldfirm have a scum element,something which the blogger seems to ignore.

 
At 10 November 2010 14:10 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daytripper has got the hun foaming at the mouth lol.

Yuo would be forgiven for thinking that the hun support are all white as the driven snow,but Manchester has put paid to that myth.

Blotto your onesided pish is a joke lol

 
At 10 November 2010 14:19 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am Poppy

They hijacked me for their ways,
But I remember my better days,
The futility of war, forgotten and ignored,
Showbiz hype has now come aboard.

They took away my word of peace,
The public now, they try to fleece,
Now used to support current war,
Have they forgotten what I am for?

Celebrating heroes was never the cause,
The futility of war, not applause,
My sentiment was always, never again,
So you would remember, the death of men,

Serenity
Inspired by a veteran.

 
At 10 November 2010 14:20 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Im a Bradford fan and I can remember the wreckage rangers fans left in my city so lets not forget that both halves of Scotlands socalled oldfirm have a scum element,something which the blogger seems to ignore."

every club has it you numpty.

what is stopping me telling everyone i am now a bradford supporter? buying a bradford strip? buying a bradford season ticket? moving to bradford? wrecking the next town at the next away match? buying a hammer? a stanley knife?

see what i'm getting at.

you could make the same point about nearly every single club in europe.

what REALLY counts is how the club is run.

Celtic cleared the way for the Green Bridgae (the group behidn the banner).
celtic fc kicked regular fans out of their seats for the Green Brigade.
Celtic allowed the pro-IRA banner inot the stadium despite all banners being checked.
The OFFICIAL Celtic supporters trust, came out in SUPPORT of the green brigade.

tell me an official supporters group/trust , of ANY other club to have released a statement, that supports terrorism, violence, thuggery, riots?

this is the only one i can think of, and it shows Celtic up big time.

 
At 10 November 2010 14:25 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me tell you right now that the poppy thing, the whole of it, everything it's been allowed to become, makes me want to throw up. Far from being a memorial to those who died, it has become an excuse for jingoism, for drum banging, for rallying round the Butchers Apron. And they call it "the best of British."

It's the WORST of British, but it sums this nation up very well.

The Germans commemorate World War II, as do the French, the Japanese and others. The French didn't emerge from WWII with any glory; they were invaded and liberated. The Germans kicked it off, along with their Italian and Japanese allies ....

These four "major powers" emerged from that conflict, and ALONE of EVERYONE IN IT, the British never looked back, but jumped into one theatre of combat after another. The French, you have to DRAG into combat, the Italians can't be made fight anywhere. The Germans became the leaders of the European Union movement and are determined - as a point of NATIONAL POLICY - never to fight on any side in another war again unless attacked. Japan is the most pacifist nation on EARTH.

I make no apology for saying this, but in Britain the hoopla around all this more and more reminds me that in this country we LOVE war. We do. It's undisputed. At Ibrox, for the last couple of years, they've blared out the Damn Busters. In England, the whole country salivates at the prospect of "beating the Germans", and if it's not them it's the "hated" Argentines. It APPALLS me at times how much we REVEL in the glory, in triumphalism, in continued HATE.

Rememberence Days has become about remembering WHO WON. World War I was called "the War to End all Wars", and let me tell you, if there was EVER a cause worth dying for then that was it. World War II was about ending fascism, but the venom being poured on guys who sang songs today proves that isn't ended yet, whether you think they were stupid or scum as some have said.

The best way I know to honour the dead is to make sure it never happens again, and on the day in which grown men are wetting themselves with fury at other grown men who's egos are bigger than their brains and who's personal agenda takes precedence over all common sense, let alone decency, another young guy was killed in a country we shouldn't be in, fighting in a war we can't win whilst politicians talk crap about duty, honour and sacrifice. It makes me absolutely sick.

This country has learned nothing. Let the drums bang. Let the hate rise. To Hell with it. There are days when I feel that if the Guy Upstairs isn't sitting down with a good book that he must be wondering if maybe the time hasn't come to push a chunk of intergalactic rock in our direction. Rip it all up and start again. We just never get over ourselves.

To those on either side of the "debate". Stop kidding yourselves that this is about those who've died. This is now about greviances between those of us who're still living, and if one thing is true above all else it's this; far from being horrified by the experiences of those who fought, far from looking at the world and the times in which they lived and saying NEVER AGAIN ...... some people genuinely CAN'T WAIT for the next excuse to polish off the guns and get down to business.

Today's not about the "best of British", but the worst traits this nation has. Little Englander drum banging and triumphalism. That's what it's become. We're a nation of little George Patton's, who could not believe World War II was going to pass him by. "History will NOT ALLOW IT ....." he is reputed to have said. Certainly, it's taught this island nothing.

 
At 10 November 2010 14:31 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tell me of another club on the planet that allowed murdering terrorists like King Rat and John Gregg(both now sanctioned to the decent worlds relief)to attend games at they're ground?

Tell me of another club on the planet that allowed a terrorist party at they're ground where said terrorists proceeded to murder each other(William Taube)?

The day Celtic fc or its fans take lectures on behaviour from fascist scum huns will be a cold day in hell.

 
At 10 November 2010 14:37 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is evident in this banner demonstration by this group calling itself the green brigade is that they do not have any interest in the welfare of the Iraqi or Afgahn people.
To gave themselves any credence they had to include Iraq and Afghanistan.

People should realise that these people are pushing all of this solely about Northern Ireland and nothing else.

This crowd of scum are totally against any peace process in Northern Ireland and have a desire of a return to the bomb and the bullet over democratic dialogue, that is the whole crux of all of this,not Iraq,not Afghanistan but only Northern Ireland.

What they did not expect was the amount of indignation that went against them because they have not got the intelligence to realise the significance of Remembrance Sunday and the symbolic nature of the poppy is about paying respect to all the fallen and maimed of every conflict regardless of nationality,creed or colour.

 
At 10 November 2010 14:41 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see huns rangers fans are upset at what they see as a media blackout of the poppy banner,did the blogger himself mention anything about it in his match report?

 
At 10 November 2010 14:45 , Anonymous Daytripping said...

If anyone can direct me to a you tube or suchlike clip of Aberdeen fans singing anything regarding the Ibrox disaster I'll donate a hundred pounds to the poppy charity??

Come on, out of 50,000 Rangers fans in Ibrox one person must have a link to a recording?

FACT is the Aberdeen fans song that asks "who's that lying at Pittodrie" is mistaken by the hun hordes for the disaster song, do I think singing about an odious human being getting injured is football banter, hell yes! people tend to forget Neil Simpson only got a yellow for the challenge, I was there and I even complained about that, it was a 50/50 challenge where the strongest man won.

Still pictures can distort the truth.

PS Durrant gets better as the years go by, in truth he was a one footed journeyman.

 
At 10 November 2010 14:47 , Anonymous Gordy said...

To anon @ 14.31
Those individuals now passed.
And you lot try to perpetuate this !!!
Keep away from football and latch on to something else why don't you.

 
At 10 November 2010 14:48 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

day tripper ,

you are a CRETIN, you call rangers fans bigoted yet in every comment you post it contains various bigoted remarks.
you call a player getting what you could call career ending injury (let's face it he was never the same player again) and singing about it "banter".
HUN is rangers fan! HUN was actually catholic but i'm not sure how rangers fans got labelled with it.
aberdeen fan's DO still sing about the ibrox disaster or is it just "banter".
aberdeen fan's mocked claudio reyna after 9/11 by making aeroplane gestures.
aberdeen fans attacked a rangers fan (an old man) at pittodrie on a live televised match.

seriously can you vouch for every aberdeen fan in saying "they have never shagged a sheep".

so don't even think about trying to take the moral high ground.

YOU MAKE ME SICK!

 
At 10 November 2010 15:06 , Blogger keith.machendry said...

DT. Let me assure you Hun is sectarian, & you & your self-righteous minority that is AFC supporters have had fans with systematic organised violence in their fans base for twenty five years. Nothin worse than havin judgemental pious bangers like you on a Rangers forum, tae a runnin jump.....please!

 
At 10 November 2010 15:07 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daytripping.

Revisionism is best left to others.
I almost understand your need to cling to the assault of Durrant as some sort of badge of honour, unhappily for you if things continue the way they are you will not be able to sing it at Ibrox next season, but they might listen at Dens park.
Durrant was an outstanding Talent, this was acknowledged by players who had played at the highest level. Souness ( you would say biasedly) bsaid he expected Durrant would have played in Italy, Wilkins ( on his return to Chelsea) said Durrant was one of the best young talents in the game, Alex Ferguson bemoaned his loss to the Game, Tommy Burns was on record as regretting the loss of such a talented player to Scotland.

As regards the other " Poppy" comments, as a Rangers supporter I absolutely respect Celtc supporters right not to wear a one. My Late Father in Law was a Celtc man, a Pass Keeper in the Catholic Church, the son of an Irish Born man and a Soldier in the British army. He wore a Poppy, his choice.
A Poppy is not a political statement, it is an emotiontal one, it does not stand for Britishness, it stands for reflection and regret that, in war, lives are lost and blighted.

If a large section of the Celtc support choose to politicize this simple sign of rememberance of war dead, and this is Commonwealth, Allied and those who fought on the other side, then that is up to them.
If this is driven by anti British feeling I can accept that, they hold principled beliefs.
All I ask is this.
If they are so principled in their anti British beliefs why are they taking Commonwealth Games money to tart up Celtc Park, why are they so keen to see the Union Flag fly over that ground, why are they running out the red carpet for the Royal Family?
Or can Principled beliefs be turned off when the cash register turns on?

Jimbo.b

 
At 10 November 2010 15:07 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re Durrant - the ref saw it and dealt with the challenge at the time. There was no significant damage done by Simmy's tackle on Durrant. The real damage was done by the way he was given a piggy-back off the pitch by the hun physio. It was that that really fucked his knee up. Them's the facts - but I guess huns don't do facts.

 
At 10 November 2010 15:23 , Blogger keith.machendry said...

You with no name, please provide the medical facts before opening your motor mouth, you scum are the real Huns, sad little club that lives on a six year glory period. You are wrong by the way the ref didn't see the tacke thats why that lump of wood Simpson stayed on the park, do everyone a favour & f**k off to a forum with your own kind ya clown!

 
At 10 November 2010 15:23 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Referee saw the incident and booked ( to the amazement of everyone who witnessed the manner of the challenge) Simpson that is a fact.

The Ball had been passed on by Durrant long before the "tackle" ( which impacted the player just below his knee) was made, that is also a fact.

The eminent American surgeon who operated on Ian Durrant likened the damage to his knee to that sustained a Car Crash. That is a Fact

This from a piggy back? ~ stretching it there I'm afraid

The facts of the case are clear and area matter of record.
You do not advance your argument by using a term that Nil by Mouth, an independent organization much loved in certain sections of the community have agreed is sectarian ( that, actually is also a fact).

Jimbo.b

 
At 10 November 2010 16:35 , Blogger Jack said...

I don't know why anybody bothers answering that lump of shit Daytripping

 
At 10 November 2010 18:04 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jimbo B,

You forgot to add that the person who added the piggy back comment is an arsehole.

That is also a fact.

Del

 
At 11 November 2010 00:01 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

aye. you wont see many irish scumbag torn flags at the commonwelth gameswill you... go back and hide in yer wee shitehole pubs doon the gallagate.. ya unwashed manky bastards. no surrender..

 
At 11 November 2010 09:05 , Anonymous Daytripping said...

I never realised this was a Rangers forum before, thanks for pointing that out chaps, I always thought it was a neutral perspective from the World renowned sports Journalist David Leggat.

Sad to see some of you resort to abuse, if you can't debate politely on any forum may I suggest not posting.

 
At 11 November 2010 09:11 , Anonymous Daytripping said...

Still no one with a link or recording of the Aberdeen fans singing the disaster song??

Come on, 50,000 people on tens of occasions, someone must have a recording, nearly everyone has a phone capable of recodring these days.

Fact is it didn't and doesn't happen, we as a support stick too football related songs, something the gers could learn from us.

 
At 11 November 2010 11:05 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Abergreen's (correct spelling) total claim to fame these days is "we were once managed by Sir Alex Ferguson' what a sad reflection on a once famous club. Why are the Celtic FC board aligning themselves with the politics of Irish terrorism? they have allowed this Green Brigade free Raine to express their bigoted bile about all things British at Parkhead with the full cooperation and agreement. Lets be clear on this, the Green Brigade is a front for the Real IRA and they are hell bent on bringing their brand of terrorism to the street of Scotland. Unless the Celtic board disengage from this shower of filth, they must take the responsibility of innocent people being maimed and hurt in the name of so called Irish freedom by these political extremists.

 
At 11 November 2010 11:47 , Blogger Thetruth said...

The Green Brigade

As hard as my first shite

 
At 11 November 2010 12:34 , Anonymous Daytripping said...

Anon at 11.05.

Our claim to fame is we're the only Scottish club to have won two European trophies.

Not that claim to fame's should matter when it comes to supporting your local team, I'm born and bred Aberdeen, if everyone followed my example and followed their nearest home town team Scottish football would be in a lot better state.

Gloryhunting has killed the game up here, maybe their team winning trophies makes up for some missing inadequacy in these people life's, I don't know, what I do know is no gloryhunter will ever feel the pride I felt watching my home town team beat Real Madrid and Hamburg to lift two European trophies, these were not bought in expensive players but home grown talent.

Even if we get relegated year after year and end up bottom of the 3rd division I'll still support my team, how many old firm rodents could say the same?

 
At 11 November 2010 13:12 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

scum scum scum .. aye av been in yer watering holes, ya manky bastards.. long live poppy day. no surrender.

 
At 11 November 2010 14:12 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmmm......Anonymous at 11.05, is it possible, just possible, that you may be getting things ever so slightly out of proportion? Maybe? Just a tad?

Just a suggestion sure.

Time to sit down and try some deep breathing fella, it'll soon be Christmas!

 

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