MORE TARTAN ARMY SHAME
IMAGINE, if you would for a moment, that a plane load of Rangers fans were said to be so drunk by an airline that they were refused permission to board their flight.
Think of the headlines in the tabloids - RANGERS BOOZED BIGOTS BANNED - is one headline which springs to mind as a possible if such a scenario ever unfolded.
However, in the real world no such treatment is meted out by the nation's media when such an incident actually did take place.
WHY?
Well that's easy. For goodness sake,these poor chaps and chapesses are part of the so called cuddly loveable Tartan Army, so it couldn't have been them who were in the wrong. Could it?
It wisnae me mister. A big boy did it and ran away. The mantra of the guilty in Scotland since I was a wean.
Except the facts, as reported in the two top selling tabloids,seem suggest the opposite as far as the plane-load of the Tartan Army, en route to Prague from Liverpool, via Amsterdam are concerned.
And the pictures of them seem to suggest they are a similar motley looking crew to the many Scotland supporters I have been forced to share an airport and a flight with over the years.
It seems that easyjet - my second favourite airline - refused to allow them to board their flight from Amsterdam to Prague because they were adjudged to be too drunk to fly.
Some of the dregs I've seen on KLM flights - my all time favourite airline - were often too blootered to walk.
Therefore ,when I read the story of the Tartan Army ban on flying by easyjet I was hardly surprised. The only surprise is it has taken so long for an airline to take a tough stand.
Of course the denials of any wrong doing spewed from this ragtag bunch of warbling Jacobite wannabees.
Take the quote from 26-year-old Adam Armstrong, a retail manager from Dumfries, who denied anyone was worse of the wear from too much bevvy.
This guy said: "We've all had a beer, but no one is drunk. It's ridiculous. We've been turfed out onto the streets of Amsterdam."
I do hope if they took the train from Schipol into Amsterdam they found some entertainments adjacent to the station. I believe there are a variety only a lurch away. Whether the males among the bedraggled group were in any condition to avail themselves of any of the pleasures, is another matter.
But let's return to Adam Armstrong's claim that all the travellers had had was "a beer."
This is a group of the Tartan Army which had assembled at the John Lennon Airport in Liverpool in good time to check in for the flight to Amsterdam, which takes around an hour a half on a flight where alcohol is available.
A group of the Tartan Army which had around two hours between flights in Amsterdam, but who then found they were there even longer as the easyjet flight to Prague had been delayed for two and a half hours.
And during all that time - in and around the bars of the John Lennon airport, on the flight over to Amsterdam, and in the four hours or more they were hanging around Schipol, which is overflowing with bars - all they had was, to quote Adam Armstrong, "a beer."
AYE, RIGHT!
Now, as I have stated, I've been in many airports and on many flights to all corners of Europe with the Tartan Army. It is not a pleasant experience .
I've also shared many a KLM flight from Glasgow to Amsterdam and then onbound to every corner of Europe with Rangers supporters and Celtic fans.
Give me the Bigot Brothers anytime. And that ain't just my view. Take a secret canvas of the press pack and they will tell you the same. They would rather share a city with Old Firm fans than with the Tartan Army.
Wee Silly Billy no doubt disagrees as, as I have already mentioned, he likes what passes for him as a good night out in a foreign port, with them, joining in with their anti-English choruses.
Let me give you an example of the way travelling to, for instance, Milan or Oslo, for a Scotland game on KLM works.
You turn up at Glasgow airport at 4.30am, bleary eyed , and check in for the 5.55 to Amsterdam and are joined by half a dozen or so kilties. And do these guys never learn of the problems getting through security when they are dressed like that?
The flight is quiet - it's early and the many businessmen on it just want to do some work - apart from the loud, and often lewd comments from the Tartan Army.
Fortunately - thanks to my KLM Gold Card as a frequent flier - I was always able to escape them as I waited in the KLM lounge at Schipol.
On emerging and making my way to the gate I would always find the half dozen or so who had been on the Glasgow flight were joined by three or four dozen who came off flights from Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Liverpool, Manchester and London.
They were all done up in the usual Tartan Army uniform of a kilt at the wrong length, boots or trainers, and they were all cluttered around a bar giving it laldy. In short, they were a drunken rabble.
On the plane there were many occasions when I was ashamed to be Scottish as they made more than merely suggestive comments to the cabin crew. Thank goodness that these Dutch lasses, even though they all speak impeccable English, could not understand the gutteral slang of the Kens.
I had to strain myself to understand what some of these boozed up halfwits were saying. And I never, never, never ever spoke, lest any of them should recognise me as a Scot.
Let me tell you a story of a flight back from Oslo one morning.
I had managed to buy a copy of that morning's English edition of the Daily Mail and was sitting on a aisle seat, as is my custom . At the window was a guy who had that hard to put your finger on look of a Scot. He was smartly dressed in a polo shirt and chinos.
In the middle was typical Ken. Kilt, boots, rolled down socks and a Scotland top which smelled as though he had been wearing it night and day since he left Her Majesty's Realm.
He tried to strike up a conversation with me in what was nearer to being a foreign tongue than English. I shrugged and continued reading the Daily Mail. The Ken then turned to the window seat passanger and said:"Ken, he disnae speak English."
Now this twenty something Tartan Army Ken was not drunk. Stupid, but not drunk.
With all of that experience - up close and personal - travelling on flights and through airports with the Tartan Army, I have no doubt those who refused them permission to board the easyjet flight from Amsterdam to Prague, were quite correct.
So far, although the top two tabloids carried the story,there is a hint in the style of their reports that this was just a jolly jape.
The High Jinks, as Para Handy says.
My bet though is that if other football supporters from Scotland had behaved in a similar way and been dealt with in such a manner, the style of the tabloid coverage would have been much harsher.
Imagine!
27 Comments:
What a load of garbage!
The scenes in Manchester left by your little Glaswegian angels is something that would never happen with the national support, what a twat!
I won't even go into desecrating war memorials and bans from Europe as the list is just too long.
PS Do you get paid to write this blinkered garbage?
Quality generalisation, Leggo. Of course no travelling Rangers (or Celtic, or Hearts, or St.Mirren, or Annan bloody Athletic) support would be even remotely similar. A nice pop of the Tartan untermensch, all the same.
Absolutely spot on. Glasgow, following a Scotland game, is full of these lewd obnoxious louts. Give the country a bad name and for most it's their big day out given the lack of success their local 'wee' teams have.
It would seem that Mr Leggat has seem much worse on KLM flights. That rather supports the view that the Easyjet individuals were harshly treated.
Have to agree with these sentiments and I do believe some on here are missing the point. Mr Leggat isn't condoning poor behaviour by Old Firm supporters in the past, he is simply asking for a level playing field.
I've travelled abroad with Scotland and Rangers many times. I've witnessed bother with both sets of fans (a minority on both counts it must be said), yet I can only ever recall one of them being totally condemed and slandered by our media. Whilst the actions of some are completely indefensible it is not how the MAJORITY behave. As Mr Leggat points out I can only imagine what the headlines would have been had that plane been Rangers supporters. Of course incidents, such as Manchester 2008 can't be condoned and those responsible deserved to be punished no matter what their reasoning was however, that doesn't mean EasyJet weren't correct to stop these lads and lassies from flying yesterday.
To give an example, both Rangers and Scotland have taken huge travelling supports of around 25000 to Europe in the last few years (Rangers to Barcelona and Scotland to Paris) I was lucky enough to be at both and had a great time on both trips. The only trouble I seen at either game was Spanish pick-pockets given a pasting by Police in Barcelona and thrown into meat wagons just off Las Ramblas. What I do remember of both days is that the main squares were filled with fans having a great time, the sun was out and lots and lots of beer was consumed. The bins were totally overflowing from early in the day and guys. being guys were finding any bush or side ally to relieve themselves.
The next day the Scotland fans were rightly given a good few pages spread in our local rags showing amazing scenes of the march to the ground. Compare and contrast to the Rangers report which went do-lally because some litter was left and a few guys had taken a piss in the street depite there being no extra toilets, and bars refusing entry to anyone that wasn't a paying customer. I mean forget the fact it's the biggest travelling support The Champions League has seen outwith a Semi or Final or the fact that the pockets of every local businessman was lined so well he could take a month off work!!! The same happened in Paris, of course it did, I mean how the feck can anyone go 8 hours without going to the loo? Funny I cant remember reading that.
Very dissapointing Leggo, you seem to be buying into the "Darling of Follow Follow mindset", Ive seen some terrible behavior from supporters of lots of teams, Rugby and Football, if you didnt witness these guys how do you know easyjet were totally justified?
Does anyone else seem to find alcohol to be the common denominator the problem in most sports related issues around the globe . I am not against the drink of course just how some chose to abuse it , maybe mixed in with the courage that comes from being in a like mined bunch .
Rangers fans follow Scotland too, has leggat forgot this inconvienent truth.
Isn't it Levein that is Scotland's main shame at the moment. He's putting out a team with one hand tied behind its back. The fans deserve credit for their loyal support of this mince. There will always be one or two who let the side down. But Harry Potter! C'mon, wee Berti was more positive!
Daytripping, take a step back and brush that chip of your shoulder, Leggat is not saying that Rangers (or even Celtic) have better traveling supporters he is commenting on how it is reported. Up until the early 80's Scotland had one of the worst reported traveling support in the world especially to Wembley, then England came along rampaging through Europe and nearly over night Scotland's drunken bams went to fun loving Tartan army in the eyes of the Scottish press just so that we could take the moral high ground.
Seems like the Tranny Army are upset. Not half as upset as the normal people in this country should be having to endure these imbeciles in CAT boots, tartan skirts and a pheasant feather in their caps, flashing their genitals all over Europe and beyond.
James Traynor (credit to him) has also hinted at the myth surrounding these &rseholes. The self-proclaimed "Greatest Fannies on the planet" remind me of another set of insecure attention seeking Bheasts who award themselves similar names.
That's the Bheast and the Trannies you've upset recently Mr. Leggat. You must be doing something right.
I'm shocked Mr Leggat, a journalist having the brass neck to tell the truth in the Republic of Schotland, just won't do. Any civillised Human being looking at those Teuchtars on the TV screens, would feel very embarrassed.
Watch out David, the forces of darkness will smear you soon for being so honest.
Bit by bit more people are seeing through the tartan army as the embarrassment that they are. It is not pleasant to be sitting near drunken foul mouthed adults especially when you have kids even when it appears to be good natured however when alcohol is involved the atmosphere can turn in a split second. Easyjet were thoroughly correct to refuse them.
On the substansive issue of consistent reporting, Leggat is correct. The old firm and in particular Rangers are treated with hostility by virtually all the major media outlets and this story is just one example of it. i.e. The TA being treated more favourably than others where similar incidents that have gone before.
The Tartan Trannie Army are a bunch of cross-dressing-bitter-jumbo-chip-on-both-shoulders bigoted-Anti-English-ginger-whig-p*ss-brained-scratchy-bollocks-pathetic-going-nowhere-been-nowhere-dullards.
These so called fans make me ashamed to be Scottish, oh well I'll just stick to being British.
Not a word by anyone on the years of sectarian and bigoted singing that Rangers fans have infested on the decent people of Scotland (and is swiftly returning it has to be said.
Seems that people simply don't hear it anymore, and their apologists and lackeys in the media refuse to condemn it.
All in all, a spiteful, nasty article by a man that obviously has problems.
I take it none of you have been to see heartbreaking scenes at childrens hospitals.orphanages across Europe where the tartan army present thousands of pounds to bring a little light to their worlds at every away trip.
Give me the Tartan army over the majority of you lot who know jack*hit about what went on in Amsterdam.
mr leggat you don't know what you're talking about
Mr Leggat,
This article is fairly pathetic. While I agree that it can be a bit embarrassing as Scot to be sitting near a group of pissed up Scots, there are a couple of pieces of nonsense above...
1 - Regardless of how many drinks "Alan" and others actually had i'm fairly sure the majority of fans would have been behaving respectfully. There would also have been plenty of them not drinking at all, or in moderation. Whether it was 4, 10 or 50 fans being eejits (and I agree, deserving not getting on) I find it bizzare that the airline could simply say "No" to all Scotland fans.
The group rejected would have consisted of many smaller groups probably no more than 4/6 each - ie nothing at all to do with the troublemakers. If a group of Black or Asian passangers were drunk and causing trouble, could they say "No" to all Blacks or Asians in the queue? Of course not.
2 - What someone chooses to wear is up to them, it should be of no concern to Mr Leggat, who going by the wee picture above should step out of his glass house before talking about dress-sense.
3 - What a horrible little man he makes himself out to be. As a Scot i'd be as embarrased by your snobby behaviour on the flight, as I would by the drunks.
Lazy, cringewhorthy journalism
OMG, more bigoted lazy shyte journalism from this has been (or rather never was), he's a one man bigoted comedy show lol!
Ignorant, ill-informed claptrap from a passed-over hack who can't even get a shift on the UK's duller tabloids.
More of a 'never-has-been' (and never will be), than a 'has-been', his scribbling is too lame and immersed in cliche to hawk his mutton in (even) the tawdry world PR, and all its 'puff' - the 'bide-a-wee home for the terminally confused' beckons.
Ive said it be before you massive-foreheaded neanderthal.
You are a cretin of the highest order - almost as high as yer foreheid.
Ohh my KLM Gold card!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ken what Mr Heid - ive got one too. And i wear a Kilt through security - no problems. Your massive foreheid will cause more security concerns than my belt or sporran. Imagine the potential for using your gigantic cranium to store explosives or something - you could destroy whole countries with that vacant space. I can picture the staff at the x-ray machines and the scanners spotting you coming along with yer "KLM gold card" and checking your your gargantuan bonce thinking " that cant be a real heid can it? Its like a planet, its a behemoth, its outrageously,exceptionally massive.
What a cock this Leggo guy is
A load of shite written by a fat attention seeking cunt. Away and fuck yourself
PS...12 of us who are all Rangers fans had a fantastic time in Prague and
would never consider going to a Rangers away game in Europe again.
So, let me get this straight. An unknown number of people were not allowed on a flight because they were allegedly drunk (presumably our pish stained friend Mr Leggat did not witness this).
Now he wants this treated in the media in the same manner as thousands of huns rioting in Manchester and nearly kicking several police officers to death?
No wondoer you're unemployed. Call yourself a journalist???
Fuck yer Qu-rans, fuck yer Bibles, sook ma baws!
I've simply no idea who David Leggat is.
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